{"time":1744636085145,"blocks":[{"id":"-okHsyugnW","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" “Take care of the planet,” says a Greenpeace slogan. What exactly does that mean? We need to <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"Ja7EVTaaKq","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" take care of our home. When we say this, it is clear that we must take care of the roof, the walls... so that we can continue living in it. The same with the planet, the planet is our home. Right now, biodiversity is being lost and we are in the middle of a climate crisis - the planet is warming up. In particular, they are man-made crises, so if we do not change our insistence, and if we do not start to turn the situation around, a couple of objective achievements of recent years that will make it impossible to live there in the future da.Greenpeacen? Greenpeace is working internationally, and there have probably been quite <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"wq1w5cKkiP","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" a<\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"UmADW3g3xu","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" few victories all over the world in recent years. I have chosen two that are more directly related to my work in the last 6 years of my work at Greenpeace: on the one hand, the recent approval by the Spanish state of the SDDR system - the return system for plastic containers - thanks to the work of Greenpeace and other actors over the years. And on the other hand, in 2022 the Spanish state approved a royal decree related to cattle, which establishes a maximum size of 850 cattle for cattle farms. Thanks to this, it has been possible to stop the 23,000 cow farm project that the company Valle de Odieta, which has a large dairy farm in Caparroso, wanted to build in Noviercas (Soria), one of the largest in the world zatekeena.Hego. What are the main challenges of Greenpeace? On the one hand, we pay great attention to the energy transition and the laws, plans, etc. that <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"hBbJ9sgm-W","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" are<\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"Lqrtp3esz4","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" developed for this purpose. In recent years, two laws related to climate change have been adopted in Navarre and the UAE; the Navarre law in 2022 and the UAE law in early 2024. We follow them: how they are being developed, whether they are being fulfilled... and, among other things, we have seen that the Government of Navarre, after two years, is not complying with aunites. And together with the Navarre Climate Alliance, we have gone to court to ask the Navarre government to develop the law that it has approved <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"UU0fvtvLVN","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" dezan.Beste. A line of work is the change of model of agriculture and livestock, in which the main example is our fight against the macrofarm of Caparroso in Navarre. But intensive pig stables are also proliferating in Navarre, and with the intention of solving the problems that arise with water and rural areas, this is also another line of work bat.Gero, which is related to the defense of biodiversity, <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"I9tidJqGom","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" there, especially in the Basque Country, we have two significant cases: The Getaria bluefin tuna farm and the Guggenheim project of the Urdaibai Biosphere Reserve. These are two harmful projects that we will continue to work on not being carried out saiatzeko.Horrez, in addition to the climate emergency and the energy transition, in recent years the citizens’ climate assemblies are being launched, which we are also monitoring, as experts laguntzen.Ekosozialismoaren it is <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"tCMQnOvOjT","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" a global<\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"RxZKnozkrU","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" fight, but it is also local. With which actors can deeper alliances be made? <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"UaBV_kvhHG","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" Alliances are essential. In addition, the crisis we are experiencing is a multi-crisis that, in addition to being ecological, is often combined with the social crisis. There are some interesting alliances there. On the one hand, which are more direct alliances, in <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"Mw0xOJFxu1","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" addition to the other groups ekologistekin.Horrez, there are two alliances that are less frequent, but that are gaining more and more strength, and that are indispensable for me. On the one hand, with feminism: feminism and environmentalism have the same origin as the many problems we struggle with, this oppressive social economic system that we have, based on the exploitation of people and nature, exploitation, the accumulation of wealth. Therefore, if, from the alliance of feminism and environmentalism, ecofeminism emerges, linked to the models of life that we have to create with a view to the future, interesting readings can come: where we have to go to make this transition fair to all people, and to build lives that deserve to live. A strategic alliance <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"vL5E30pkjD","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" da.Beste is one that is increasingly articulating itself with trade unionism. The Basque Country is an industrialized country, with a great weight of industry; and especially in the Basque Country, industries linked to fossil fuels: Petronor, Vizcaya Bay, Mercedes, Volkswagen... There are sectors that will necessarily have to be transformed or reduced, but it is necessary to do it in a fair way and think about what to do with the workers. Environmentalism does not have all the knowledge it needs, and it also has to develop proposals from the trade union dira.AuziakGreenpeacek, <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"-ukgqTprlh","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" which<\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"htGJxiyqj7","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" sued the new Guggenheim project that <\/span> they plan to build in the Urdaibai biosphere reserve, because it violates the Costa Law. <\/span> What is the case? What would cause such a project? We <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"eQpUU9Rx6r","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" filed an appeal against the ministerial order because it violated the Costa Law. Now we are waiting; the Ministry, the Shipyard of Murueta and the Provincial Council of Biscay must give us an answer aurkeztutakoari.Kontuan to <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"OQXMulJra5","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" assume that the project will have two residences: one in Gernika and the other in Murueta. And the two will be connected by a passage. The most critical for us, presumably, is that of the Murus, because it is at the core of the biosphere reserve, where there are several protection figures of international value, precisely, the most vulnerable ecosystems and species of the biosphere: it is a wetland that has immense value, both in helping to combat climate change and in maintaining biodiversity, and it makes no sense to continue artificializing it. It will damage the native species, as well as the processes that the wetland may have. We still remember those caused by Dana in Valencia; experts say that keeping wetlands, rivers and riverbeds in good condition helps to face this type of disaster, because ecosystems have a certain capacity to slow down, assimilate water... But if we don’t give them the space they need, they lose the ability to do so, and ultimately harm us too da.Bestalde, the <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"Fj2_bpDY2Q","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" cow <\/span> farm in Caparroso has attacked 8 Greenpeace activists in connection with an action. What's the situation? What is the impact of agribusiness in the Basque Country? The <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"v4NDjEowzY","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" trial was held and we are now waiting for the verdict. The situation in Navarre and the Basque Country is not the same.In Navarre, especially in the south, it is more evident. We focused on this, especially in relation to greenhouse gas emissions - in this type of farms there is a greater emission of methane and CO2 - and also in relation to deforestation - these animals are closed all their lives and have to bring fodder for them from outside, often because of the deforestation of the South American forests, they feed on this soy that is grown. Finally, we also work on their effect on water: In Navarre it is already evident that in the south there are underground reservoirs of aunitz nitrate with high pollution. And because of this the state of unusable local water da.Larrialdi What <\/span> "}},{"id":"GcEsWWpsPd","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" are the limits<\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"1NcAEQpTzq","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" of the planet? And what is the current situation?Nine are the <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"9kzn6Fb5do","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" limits of the planet. They were established in 2009, observing what made life on the planet viable. That’s where climate change, biosphere integrity and so on are. They measure the conditions necessary for life to be possible. Today, we have already surpassed six of those nine. What does that bring? Unbalance these optimal conditions.<\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"p9ThCXKo1V","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" We are moving the Earth away from safe conditions for human survival. For what reason? What are the risks of <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"H22C3CLZkU","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" this? There are some optimal conditions to be able to live: we need oxygen, a certain temperature, a certain stability... And today, with the climate emergency, we know that the temperature is changing, as well as the chemical substances that surround us, reaching contaminated levels, and affecting health. With all this, the climate that we have is also changing, leading to increasingly extreme weather events. All this directly affects the living conditions and the conditions of the species. Since species are already changing their optimal conditions, they are migrating, disappearing from certain places, and appearing in some places that were not common. This is creating a huge imbalance, and are we on the verge of an irreversible catastrophe that will make it increasingly difficult to sustain <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"8ZTMfwjxAp","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" life in such an unstable place da.Klima?We are at<\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"Xz0BMCRSWW","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" a critical moment. In 2018, the IPCC said that we were in a crucial decade, that we had this decade to take bold action and not to cross a border that cannot be reversed. They proposed to avoid this heating limit of 1.5°C; the Paris Agreement set a limit of 2°C, and science said that this range would already be quite different. We must now address the fact that these limits have not been <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"Vz_RlfEoSj","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" exceeded pasatzeko.Aurten by an average of 1.5°C according to some experts. Is everything lost? Is it worth it to keep <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"yw__vXJhr3","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" working?Without a doubt, not everything is lost. It is true that science recommended a barrier of 1.5°C, but we also have to keep fighting for not exceeding 2°C. We have to fight for any ten. And it is also mentioned with the objectives that the states have established that we could even have a 3ºC increase by the end of the century. So we can’t give up; although we’re not going to reach the 1.5°C goal, we have to go now to make another bet and try not to exceed 1.6-1.7°C; you’ve given the important of any ten <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"9Lge-QYMoo","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" da.Mezu an optimistic call to the fight. But it is also a time of catastrophic messages. What are the risks of this? <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"elgKLjrUB6","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" Sometimes we call the messages catastrophic and I don’t know if they are not realistic. I'd make that different. It is realistic to say that we may not achieve the 1.5°C barrier, but it is not catastrophic. And we need messages like that, because the situation is really serious. We have to realize this, because it seems that there are still sectors of society that do not really believe, or do not want to believe, in order to continue protecting their interests. So we need these serious realistic messages. It is true that in some sectors the idea of collapse, of the irreversible, is spread, and if this is dangerous, we can believe that there is no deus, which implies “to die, to live as I can”. And this will waste valuable time liguke.Influence In Map’s <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"wl92BRC1UN","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" The Carbon <\/span> Majors Database 2024 study, Repsol is <\/span> among the 122 most polluting companies in the world [responsible for 72% of global CO2 emissions].<\/span> In <\/span> the face of these clear cases of greenwhasing, what measures should be <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"s_nhkV81au","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" taken?Rules and green taxation are needed. Repsol is among the 122 most polluting in the world, and it is also receiving the greatest economic benefits of all time. More than 90% of its activity is based on fossil fuels and most of its investments. However, all its advertising is linked to renewable energies. Now they are bolus with green hydrogen; with a good analysis of the data, the latter is also only a small part of their activity. This must be avoided, and rules are needed to prevent such companies from doing so. There are some laws that are being developed in Europe. On the other hand, if they are enjoying this type of benefits, they must be taxed. There is a principle that “the polluter pays”; and according to this principle, the polluter pays the fees. Now, for example, in the run-up to COP29, Greenpeace has made a proposal linked to funding sources: to set a rate for every tonne of fossil fuel that is extracted. If there are such proposals, what is missing is that they garatzea.Alternatiba are possible. <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"23GG_pxAfk","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" The ideal<\/span> <\/span> <\/span> solution "}},{"id":"6-sxPKTX9K","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" to the current economic and environmental crisis for economist Kate Raworth is the donut economy. <\/span> <\/span> Amsterdam has already decided to implement the donut <\/span> economy. <\/span> What do you think? What is the essence of this proposal? <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"b6u9WAJSbm","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" It is a visual proposal that has been welcomed by many people because it represents well where we should go. It removes from the center this unlimited growth of the capitalist system and puts in a cape these basic needs (water, housing, education...) that are necessary to have a decent life. In another layer it establishes these nine limits of the planet. Therefore, what needs to be developed is between these two layers, a framework culture horretan.Nahikotasunaren that takes into account the limits of life and those of the planet <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"eC5o9nfILt","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" is also mentioned.<\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> Do we have him interned? Are we aware of its importance?<\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"y9zOka265o","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" For me, it proposes an interesting framework: because it takes into account the limits of the planet and establishes enough dignified lives. This could also impose limits on the accumulation of wealth; it could also lead to a good point of view in the energy transition (how much renewable, where, how, for what, what to give priority to...), what is sufficient and what is necessary to live well? How much do we need to cover this need? Above that, do we need more?EH <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"z_TYXl8kSF","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" Bila presented its energy strategy for a social transformation two years ago, based on decarbonisation and consumption reduction, and renewable energies.<\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"jin8FF6tjo","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" From Greenpeace, it’s a good idea. It is quite close to the demands that science and Greenpeace make: emission reduction, reduction of energy consumption... Now, it's true that they're numbers that scare. We must take into account that in Navarre 80% and in the Basque Country more than 90% are fossil fuels, coming from abroad. So we’re saying that in 20 years we need to move from a 90% dependency to a 35% supply rate. And this, taking into account our conflicts in the implementation of renewable energies. Currently 8% is covered by renewable energies in the Basque Country; and there is also a large margin to increase to 50% of this figure, which is also a transformation that needs to be done relatively quickly. It is a strong and necessary bet, now we will have to see how egin.Energia <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"zsu8LD4ka5","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" the need for renewables is a fairly widespread opinion. However, its implementation has been the subject of much controversy in recent times, mainly in the Basque Country. How do you see the matter? What is the way to go?Aunitz is <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"XpBuniESfu","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" concerned about the situation. It must be acknowledged that we have the situation we have, in large part because the administrations and authorities have not given it sufficient importance at the time when it was necessary. No one has thought about how to abandon fossil fuels and how to regulate the development of renewable energies. And this has meant that at a significant time when the exclusion of fossil fuels is essential, renewable energies become a source of business for the big ones in the company. And because there is no regulation, a just energy transition instead of being developed by the administration and society, companies are developing largely in favor of their economic interests. And this is a problem for me <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"xzDNcIzuPo","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" da.Kezkatzen, the debate that has arisen in society, especially in popular movements. I think the debate is taking place in very dichotomous terms: big renewables or not, you are a developmentalist or you are in favour of degrowth. Put in such a dichotomous way, we lose a lot of gray, we lose sight of the minimums and frameworks for consensus, which again presents great dangers: while we are arguing, our real enemies (those who are benefiting from fossil fuels) are comfortable tires; and we, who should have been allies among us, are arguing with each other. It’s hard to get a consensus decision on the bi-reception from today, but we don’t have much time – we’ve already crossed the 1.5°C barrier this year. Should we begin to seek consensus in the popular movement, and perhaps even with some institutions, if not optimal, would you highlight elements of something that will be good bila.Zein for the Basque Country <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"Py4GdmzHSN","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" to face the ecosocial transition? What priorities should be urgently addressed?Energy transition <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"rqVmhtrsBH","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" is one of the priorities. We need to see how to do that. This situation is multifarious, and the current socio-economic system is the source of several problems. With this in mind, we must look for alternatives to transform the current system, we must change the model of production and consumption, with the principle of sufficiency, what do we really need? What do we need to produce? How should we produce?. The models of nutrition and mobility are key. And of course, we’re having to put aside fossil fuels ditugu.Ikusten because <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"MJVjYyRFjv","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" the car industry has entered a crisis. Volkswagen has announced layoffs in Germany, a sector that has a great weight in the economy here. How should the transition take place in the industry? What should we look <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"r5KnG_7gKf","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" at? Greenpeace has no concrete proposals; we are an environmental organization with little knowledge of how industries, workers... work. That’s why alliances with unions are strategic. What we are saying is that the transition has to be planned from today. In the automotive industry, for example, we must stop selling cars that need fossil fuels as soon as possible, something we have known for a long time, including Volkswagen and Mercedes. They have to make a transition plan to transition to electric motors, or even to create other things. In fact, some sectors will have to be reduced or eliminated, other sectors will have to be transformed, and others will have to grow (renewable, energy efficiency, collective <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"XLQmS6N10e","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" mobility...). Planning is necessary. For example, there are interesting lessons: it was difficult to think that we would abandon coal for a few years, and great progress has been made in Europe and the Spanish state in this regard. Some studies have looked at how transitions have been made in some regions where coal was grown. And it has been seen that these transitions have often been beneficial when they were planned. That is to say that the living conditions, job opportunities, etc. of the people of this region have improved, although it is necessary to go to the coal oinarritutakoa.Hortik that was an industry of great <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> <\/span> "}},{"id":"lpOCcI1HHQ","type":"paragraph","data":{"text":" importance at the time, it is necessary to start planning. Otherwise, from one day to the next, Volkswagen will decide to close because it works better in a Global South country, and all the workers here will go to the streets. And this cannot be allowed for us in a just ecological transition. <\/span> <\/span> <\/span>"}}],"version":"2.30.7"}

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